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davedye1
June 1, 2015
IN-CAMERA 1: Brian Griffin.

You grew up in the land of the Brum?I was actually born in the Children's Hospital in Birmingham, although I grew up in the Black Country in a town called Lye.Art College?I worked in engineering until I was 21, so as a mature student I studied at Manchester Polytechnic School of Photography.Did they teach you anything useful?How to lose your virginity and smoke.When did you take your first picture?As an amateur around 1965, but as a professional November 1972.

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'Bread-back Mountain' Brian Griffin

What was your first job?I was a trainee draughtsman.That must have fed into your photography?Assisted my sense of proportion, when it comes to composition.Did you assist anyone?No.

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What was the first picture you were paid for?It was for the magazine Management Today, I shot Newsprint being unloaded from a barge on the Thames, just down the road from where I live now in Rotherhithe, South East London.Who were your early ad clients?Daily Mail, British Airways, Hewlett Packard, Olivetti, Levi’s, Philips & Beefeater Gin.

Brian Griffin, Time Out 'J. G. Ballard'

Who were your early photography heroes?Myself.What traits did you most admire in yourself?Obsessiveness, aesthetic judgment, bravery, competitive spirit and being not afraid of hard work.After your smoke filled upbringing in Birmingham, how did you find the glitzy world of advertising?I have always enjoyed problem solving and advertising certainly nourished that. Being a good mathematician, inherited from my engineering days in Birmingham, served me well, certainly when jumping through photographic technical hoops on advertising shoots, prior to the advent of Photoshop.I found advertising enjoyable because it not only involved creativity but a high level of problem solving.

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Who was the best Art Director you worked with?Paul Arden, because he loved photography and understood how to use it powerfully.

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Paul Arden (Brian Griffin) Republic Bank 'Boat'-01
Paul Arden (Brian Griffin) Republic Bank-01

I heard a rumour that you once turned up to the D&AD Awards, being held at the Royal Albert Hall, dressed as the Royal Albert Hall.Is this true and if so do you have photographic evidence?I certainly did and here I am in the outfit.

Brian Griffin in Albert Hall

What was your first good ad?I just can’t remember having done so many.

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You worked with a little known art directing hero of mine - John Knight, how was he to work with?That was on the Beefeater Gin campaign.John made me feel like anything goes!He enjoyed working in my studio, which at that time was situated in the dark overgrown weed land of the disused docks.

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Were you difficult to work with?Eccentric but never difficult. In fact maybe far too easy at times.

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Brian Griffin, 'Flower'-01

You’re quite arty, did you like the commercialism of advertising?No.

Brian Griffin, Sony - 'Melly', BBH-01

What ad were you most pleased with?Probably the 1991 film I shot for Paul Arden, who was Creative Director at Saatchi’s.Its title was 'For The World' and was for Forte Hotels.My brief was to get Rocco Forte a Knighthood, he got one!

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Why move into commercials? Cash?It was my ego getting the better of me.Did you prefer Art Directors to give you a tight or open brief?Always an open one of course.Well, the top art directors were confident creative’s and always set an open brief.

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DAVE: As well as being a ludicrously well paid advertising photographer you had a parallel career as a barely paid rock photographer?Correct.

Brian Griffin and-Ian-Drury

And sang with Ian Dury?Me duetting with Ian at my 40th birthday party, which was also the launch party for my book ‘Work’.How many album covers have you shot?I think almost 200, if you include single sleeves.

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Brian Griffin - Depeche Mode, Wheat
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Brian Griffin - Inner City Unit

Brian Griffin, Devo
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Is shooting an album different to shooting an ad?Because of the total freedom, most definitely.

Brian Griffin - Echo
Brian Griffin - Look Sharp
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Brian Griffin, 'My Best Buy', Direction magazine-01

You shot a lot of them with your mate Barney Bubbles. Surely one of Britain’s most talented and least known designers?Absolutely criminal. Mainly due to the fact he took his life 20 years ago.What did you learn from Barney?At the point of absolute failure arrives success.Do you have an example?Too many to recall an individual example.It was most often that the edge of the envelope was pushed.

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Often there's only a face and a prop, so how is it that your portraits are so distinctive?I wish I knew.I guess its the fact I always try so hard to produce something that is different.Plus coming from the Black Country certainly gives you a warped outlook on life.I presume some come from observing and thinking on the spot?

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Brian Griffi, The Times 'Tony Benn'
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Brian Griffin - Bald:hair

But some come from you having the sheer cojones to ask someone famous to do something weird?Ere Manolo, sniff those shoes for Me’.

Brian Griffin - MANOLO-BLAHNIK

‘Helen, be a love and crawl under that table for me.’

Brian Griffin - Helen Mirren

‘Lie down and give that saw a kiss for me matey’

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‘Can we just cover one with a saucer on your bonce?’

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‘Ere Damien! Stick this thing in your gob!’

Damien Hirst' Brian Griffin

Where do you get the brass-neck to ask famous people to do silly things?I have no choice. For I have to ask them otherwise the photograph would be boring.I experienced that first hand when you shot some portraits for Me, (and art director David Goss).

Dave Dye, H.A.T. 'Nick Gill', DHM:Brian Griffin*

Dave Dye, H.A.T. 'Ringan Ledwidge, DHM:Brian Griffin*

Dave Dye, H.A.T. 'Mark Denton', DHM:Brian Griffin*

Dave Dye, H.A.T. 'Tony Davidson', DHM:Brian Griffin
Dave Dye, H.A.T. 'Paul Silburn', DHM:Brian Griffin*

We shot the first few, they all went well, but when it came to Dave Trott we couldn't think how to shoot him.You said to your assistant ‘Pop down to the sports shop and get some ping pong balls, I think we'll pop one in Dave's mouth.’‘You won't’ said Dave.So we didn't.It was not easy trying to make Dave Trott interesting, and his lack of collaboration didn't help.

Dave Dye, H.A.T. 'Dave Trott', DHM:Brian Griffin

You have portraits that are supposedly shot in camera, but Brian, how on earth can you do this in camera?

Brian Griffin - In camera

Being an ex-engineer I developed many light machines to produce in-camera effects.

Brian Griffin - Danny Thompson

For years after people visiting my studio would stand within this light machine.So I'm guessing you're not a fan of CGI and retouching?I’m one of the last practicing living photographers that had to do it all in camera, which involved technical gymnastics.It's good that they don’t request photographers to be that clever these days because its painful and you have to be really good.

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Brian Griffin - Brian Eno

Do you think the digitisation of photography has advanced imagery?Created a great deal of harm in developing homogeneity in image making.However it has opened up opportunities due to the decimal divisions now in exposures, to create beautifully lit scenarios when employing lights.

Brian Griffin - Tuna Fisherman

If you could take a portrait of anyone, living or dead, who would you choose?Princess Anne.Which of your rivals did you respect most?Irving Penn. and Richard Avedon.

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And Richard Avedon.

Richard Avedon 'Malcolm X'

Why and why?Constantly, day after day, as professional photographers they produced powerful images from a variety of subject matters.Only the truly great photographers can photograph anything to a high standard.

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Which photographers do you admire today?None.

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N.B. A Direction magazine article from the early eighties.

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Brian Griffin, Direction 'Improved', Article*
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Comments
Graham Pugh
11.12.24
I still talk about ‘floating on the bouillabaisse of life” and expect people to know what I’m on about. Lovely stuff as ever – thanks Dave!
dave dye
11.12.24
Thanks Graham, Yep love that line, it’s John voicing it, in fact the whole ad stands up incredibly well. Dx
Graham Pugh
11.12.24
I still talk about ‘floating on the bouillabaisse of life” and expect people to know what I’m on about. Lovely stuff as ever – thanks Dave!
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